I've got to side with Alex on this one. If you think the only way you're going to make the play-offs is to play UP (and Alex & Dave had every reason to think this), then you've got to do it. So what if it lessens your chances of making further progress, if you don't make it into the play-offs then your chances are absolute zero! Of course though, without the extra UP, you'd have a great shot at the much-coveted Silver Bowl!

It's unfortunate that it impacted on Norm's HFA chances, but I think you've got to look out for No. 1 when it comes to the play-offs.

As for Jay, just chalk it down as a lesson learned. As Goz wrapped up HFA anyway, hopefully all will be forgiven. Judging by your progress this season, I'd imagine that any future UPs for the Broncos will be far from meaningless anyway.

I got into the playoffs last year in the AY by playing UP in the last game of the season. My points spread was 1 point better than the Colts who had held a wildcard spot for most of the season. Dex has not appeared on this forum or on Yahoo since that game.

On the other hand I was ecstatic and would do the same tomorrow. I am sorry about losing Dex though and apologised on at least a couple of occasions.  

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I got the impression that Dex was on his way out of Gameplan anyway and I'm not sure he ever really posted on here, so I shouldn't worry too much about it. I think the Colts only had themselves to blame for losing to the unfancied Dolphins in Week 16 that year.

l am afraid we will have to agree to disagree on the UP skirt, Tom's actions last season proved my point and l am sure the Fins in NFLc will suffer much the same.

Jon G, not sure about l have myself to blame, l think the GOZ team is a totally different offence to the Colts, a salad team can overcome being behind a bit easier if the defence does not know how to stop them, so UP against GOZ is a little bit different to the Colts. The colts are not a power passing offence, so they play pretty much high percentage plays with run and short passing, it's really because of the roster l have. Not much l can do when we get the turnovers and short punts well inside our own half, which l think UP really did the job.

We will have to agree to disagree and that is fine.

l would prefer, to take a higher draft pick and get ready for a new season, instead of wasting time with no real chance at a bowl.

However, revenge is best served cold, and my comments stand, anytime l can stuff up a Coombe or Flesfader team by doing an UP skirt in any of the final four weeks of a season whether l have or have not got a chance at post season, you can be sure l will be UP skirting.
 

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stormin wrote : l am afraid we will have to agree to disagree on the UP skirt, Tom's actions last season proved my point and l am sure the Fins in NFLc will suffer much the same. l would prefer, to take a higher draft pick and get ready for a new season, instead of wasting time with no real chance at a bowl. However, revenge is best served cold, and my comments stand, anytime l can stuff up a Coombe or Flesfader team by doing an UP skirt in any of the final four weeks of a season whether l have or have not got a chance at post season, you can be sure l will be UP skirting.

For the Fins to make the post season, playing UP was a no brainer. No point sitting around wondering if we didn't get there. Added to this was the fact that not even a win would guarantee a playoff berth, a good win was necessary just in case Sam's Bengals did a number on Mike's texans. Al and I have the job to get OUR team into the Playoffs, i couldn't give a rats ass about whether i stuffed up another teams HFA. I don't care less what other teams do, whether they play UP or not against us at any stage of the season, you just have to face what is presented to you and get on with it.

I know some comments are said in jest Norm, but it sounds like the Colts have already thrown in the towel without HFA. The other AFC playoff teams would be delighted to read all this, especially Goz. You are giving them a tatsy little confidence boost on the eve of the playoffs. At the end of the day, i'd be happy to swap positions with you. You have a great team, a great gameplan and you are a great coach. Get into the bunker and start planning for Superbowl glory instead of worrying about week 16!

This is the first time I've ever heard you be pessimistic and defeatist Norm, you say the Fins shouldn't have played up in week 16 beacuse with an Up we couldn't win the superbowl,
you've also said, and I agree, that without the up we wouldnt' have won week 16 and wouldn't have made the playoffs.

If you had the chance to
a) play up and have a 1 in 100 chance of superbowl glory OR
b) not play up, loose and sit around jerking off outside the playoffs

what would you have chosen for YOUR team, I've never heard such spurious logic, you talk as if the Dolphins coach was employed by Indianapolis, and its our job to get YOUR team further.
I'll take a slim chance any day.
Plenty of teams have shown an extra up isnt't he be all and end all of the playoffs, have a glance at the top of your screen norm, Superbowl 07 in the AFC championship game you got beaten by the Wildcard entry Raiders who won the Bowl.
In the  o8 season the wildcard entry Chargers stomped you by about 5 TDs in the divisional round, again despite an extra up and again went on to win the superbowl against the bloody Panthers! 25-7 even!

When the Dolphins kick the living brown out Cleveland this week you might like to rethink your stance on our descision to play up to make it rather than just giving up and licking our wounds saying what if?!

LOL, tempted to play up in both regular season games against the Colts next year just to piss you off, but I don't think we'll need to- we're gonna rip it up next year.



PS I've had 2 mugs of coffee this morning so I'm hopped up on caffine and a little more combatative than normal! lol

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stormin wrote : Jon G, not sure about l have myself to blame, l think the GOZ team is a totally different offence to the Colts, a salad team can overcome being behind a bit easier if the defence does not know how to stop them, so UP against GOZ is a little bit different to the Colts.

Hey Norm, you haven't been doing your homework lately!  
The Chargers in recent weeks in 'C', 'AY' and GB have been mixing their offence around, and if you notice in the roundups, there's not much (if any) 'S' plays. I've more or less abandoned the 'S' run 'n' shoot to prove to my doubters that we can mix it up a little, and to keep my opponents on their toes when they come to plan against me! I'm not saying I've abandoned it altogether, just mixed it up a little!

WOW!

Interesting development Goz, I notices in AY your interesting formations, I worried I won't know what to call against you from now on...
looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

You seem to be defending your actions a bit too hard.


We can agree to disagree, no one wins an argument l learned that years ago. Actually l learned that twice the hard way.


We still have a wonderful opportunity, and we will be talking it with both hands, make no mistake, we can do it from here just as easy, it's a no brainer. Me give up or defeated, you don't know me very well at all. lf you have seen SAW you will remember Amanda the only one to make it through jiggsaws trap, l have that determination about me.


lf you don't want me to express an opinion that you don't like in the future then l won't. Just let me know. l don't really mine taking a backward step and being a bit more low key.


GOZ, if we meet in the Championship game, you can come out of any formation you want, it won't bother us, we are ready, and l mean any formation, we are now setup to handle anything. l look forward to any challenge.


Alex/Dave, l would not do it, but others can UP skirt, and that is their business, l would not care if you UP skirted against me from now until the day l die, in fact that would be funny as a bum full of smarties.


l doubt you will beat Chris H, but if you do, hates off to you, l am sure GOZ will smash you so hard with two UP skirts under your belt and he has zero that you will be hearing ringing in your ears for weeks after.


l think teams can go all the way from the wildcard game if they have the right style of team, l think GOZ style of team is certainly capable if you don't know how to stop it. Going from week 16 UP skirting to the bowl game, l guess anything is possible, when it happens l guess l will sit corrected until then l figure it's such a low percentage play that l would prefer to take the higher draft pick and move on.

lf you make it past GOZ, it will be like a jiggsaw trap from the SAW films, because it would be such a wonderful match up maybe the gameplan gods will give it to us, Miami at Colts for the AFC Championship game, you three UP skirts and the Colts with one UP.  That would be a blast.


All the best for the playoffs to all teams, l seriously mean that, it's a wonderful time, bring it on...


Controversy is good for the game, the media would be eating this up in the real NFL.


l think l also mentioned recently, desperate teams do desperate things to win, how far coaches go is up to them, l have no problem with it believe me, none what so ever, just because l would not do it, or don't agree with it, is just that, no biggie and no brainer. lt's part of the game, it's what makes it one of the greatest products out there in the land of online and console games.

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You seem to be defending your actions a bit too hard.

You seem to be attacking our actions a bit too hard.

We were just trying to get intot he playoffs, LOL!

By beating you we went from pick number 14 and no playoffs, to pick number 15 and a 1 in 100 shot at getting into the bowl,
that's a fair trade to me.

Getting into the playoffs with all the big boys has given me heaps more enthusiasm for gameplan, really made me develop a love of this team, this league.
Dave and I have already spent about 6 hours discussing this matchup.

Don't mind being the underdog, just  get your rabbies shots folks incase you get bitten!

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l doubt you will beat Chris H, but if you do, hates off to you,

Typo or fraudian slip?
Put your autographed pammy poster on it norm, its a done deal. This game will either be a nice close one decided by a few key plays or it'll be a whitewash like the 38-7 game in week 4 this year when the browns had the ball for 17 minutes, but didn't even recognise what it was or what to do with it...  

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lf it has given you some spark well that's all worth it. l take the 14 pick, and move one, we are all different. l'd prefer to miss then limp in and get flogged, again that's me.


When l discuss l discuss l don't write one word.


Hats* was the word l think l was trying to us.

 

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stormin wrote : Jon G, not sure about l have myself to blame

Just for the record, I was talking about Dex's AY Colts last season, not your C Colts!

Cool.